Jay Bali Bhakta Vaishnava Vrinda ki

Nitai Gaura Premananda ki

Devotees: Jai Sripad Maharaj ki

BSDS: So understanding the distinction between matter and spirit as well as devotional service, so this is called raja vidya, means the king of education. And also not only the king of education, it is the most confidential. Confidential means, in our case means open confidential, you keep things very carefully. So we have to keep this in mind. So when you practice our devotional life with, then you will become very strong internally. So we have deep internal spiritual strength and then you depend on the blessings of the acharya and vaishnavas and then our devotional life will become –  protected by the blessings of guru and Krishna. So this is very simple, here in this book the distinction between matter and life, so very simply, we give the example that matter – the particle of matter is called electron, right? You have all heard electron? So what is meant by email? Electronic mail, right? That electronic is the same as this electron. Electronic mail, right? But then what is the example of life? So the example of life is called spiriton. Electron and spiriton. So therefore Krishna says the distinction, to understand the distinction, what is the distinction between the electron and the spiriton? What is the distinction?

Devotee: Electron is unconscious, but spiriton is conscious, chetana.

BSDS: Yes, so electron has no consciousness. But the spiriton has consciousness. But how electron can be studied? How do you study electron? How do you detect? So anybody knows how to study electron? Because you cannot see it, you cannot see electron. So electron can be studied by called – anuman, what is anuman?

Devotee: anuman pramana

BSDS: Anuman means inference, in English its called inference. So like in places, I don’t know in Asia, in the tropical climate you don’t see, but in places like America and Europe, when aeroplane flies, you may not see the aeroplane but you can see a trail of fog, from that you know that the aeroplane has gone this way.  So similarly the electron, when they studied, called Wilson’s cloud chamber, that the electron passes through a chamber of this gases but when electron passes the gases are ionized. Ionized means one electron is knocked out and then you have charged particles inside the chamber. So just like a trail that you see in the sky, similarly trail you can see in the chamber. And that can be photographed. So in this way you can say that electron is real, electron exists. Similarly how do you know the spiriton exists? Any answer? How do you know?

Devotee: By consciousness

BSDS: But consciousness is a little subtle, what about  easier one? So what is the difference between life and death? So just like when Prabhupada in the early 70’s there was a correspondence with Prabhupada, our Guru Maharaj, and with a surgeon in Toronto, in Canada. His name is Dr. Bigelow. Bigelow said, “Every day in the operating theatre some people die” he was experienced, he wanted to know what is the weight of the soul which has gone from this body. So Prabhupada wrote, he was very interested, Dr. Bigelow. Prabhupada  [indistinct words] correspondence.But you see it is not possible to take the weight because our modern equipment are very limited. But the very fact that when a dead body cannot be brought back to life again, when its dead, that shows that something is gone. So therefore we call spiriton. Its called a fundamental particle of  [indistinct word]. So like that these are mentioned briefly here. The technique of study of spiriton here is called the dynamics.  Dynamics of nine processes of bhakti. This is the dynamics by shravana, kirtanam, Vishnu smaranam…

Devotee: Vishnu smaranam, vandanam, dasyam, archanam, sakhyam, atma-nivedanam

BSDS: So atma-nivedanam means total surrender to the Lord. By these nine. process of spiritual dynamics one can understand the process of the engagement and activity of the spiriton. Therefore, this is for everyone, especially for the medical doctors. Therefore I have put a Kreb’s cycle.  So therefore this is for you to read. So that it will be useful for -. And then begging for the blessings of the spiritual teachers and Prabhupada, unless we know about the distinction between life and matter then one will be very proud. Because on the bodily platform you can be proud, and one will become very angry quickly. So we have to, unless you understand this basic background you cannot have anger control and what does Krishna- Gita says? Kama, krodha, lobha. So these are three gates to what?

Devotee: Naraka. To Denpas station (laughter)

BSDS:l. To the lower planetary system. And therefore, krodha is very very, we have to be extremely cautious that . . .  if we can learn how to manage our anger -. And so when one is able to even try it and think about it, that means you are making progress. That is very background, so when Gauranga Mahaprabhu says (sings) “trinad api sunicena, taror eva sahisnuna, amanina mana dena, kirtaniya sada harih[1]” Beautiful, Gauranga mahaprabhu. This is called scientific, scientific means something if you practice you get the results. So when Gauranga Mahaprabhu says amanina manadena, manadena means devoid of all desire for false prestige. False prestige means want to be glorified want to have name and fame. So this is the conception of mine and my property, my land so all these instructions are called –  amanina – devoid of all sense of false prestige. So Gauranga mahaprabhu says this false prestige, we have to give up. So when we are able to realize that at the point that we can chant the glories of the lord, kirtaniya sadah harih so therefore this is very important. Once we develop this culture, this beautiful culture, then we will be able to proceed in our devotional journey properly. So this is what, basic devotional program. In this way one can build one’s foundation. So therefore we have to learn how to relate as brothers and sisters. Helping spirit, helping mind, if someone is weak. Vaishnava is called para duhkha dukhi. Always is concerned when someone is not doing well, always worried about. So in this way Vaishnava is always concerned for the welfare of all living beings. In this way if we maintain this culture, this simple culture, everybody will remain strong in the journey. You see, life is a journey, journey is very long. So we have to pass through all these coconut forests and [indistinct word], so life is a journey. This is natural, it is natural that we will encounter ups and downs, but when there is a danger, when there is some difficulty, sometimes there are challenges in life, but you will have enough strength how to face those challenges. And if you overcome that difficulty, then you will get more strength, because spiritual strength is unlimited. Because the Lord gives, the Lord provides then you get confidence, self confidence. And by that confidence you will become very enthusiastic. Then you don’t get angry when someone says something. You appreciate everything, “Oh he is saying because he has something.” But you do not get upset. So in this way you can remain balanced. So this is very required in our devotional journey. So in this way devotional life is called the summum bonum-everything, it will solve all the –  problems are only material. You can always solve by spiritual knowledge. This understanding is very essential.

So we are happy to see all of you.

Devotees: Sripad Maharaj ki jai, jaya

BSDS: So please stay strong. I was in Orissa before I came here. Orissa, lot of nice things will happen in Orissa now. So there is one university near Jagannath Puri coming, its called the Vedanta University.

Devotees: Jaya!

BSDS: There are 10000 acres of land. And the budget is 15  thousand million dollars. (laughter) That is one thing, this is headed by a person called Anil Agarwal. The title is called Vedanta but there will be all subjects. There is a company coming for construction, he is spending 4 thousand million dollars. I am doing a small project, my small project is on the bank of Mahanadi river. so this is – , when you come to Orissa I will take you there. It has not started yet but I got a piece of land, so we are planning to do a very small and nice project on the banks of Mahanadi, a very auspicious river in Sambalpur.  I just came from there. It will be our writing for Vedanta, Science and Vedanta. So you can visit when you visit India next year. We will start from this year, the month of November and December we are starting. So there are many nice projects coming in India.

I told last time we wanted to start one school in Bali but the school has to come from Yayasan Bhaktivedanta Institute. Because in Bali the grihastha ashram is very strong. (laughter) That is a special blessings of –  . I see so many nice children, little children so many in the last few years (laughter). We need a very nice school. This school will be very high class. Devotionally it should be very nicely prepared. Plus other education. so I thought the time has come we have to start a school soon, almost immediately. Our Ramavallabha, others you know that,  who will be leading these schools, I just said that it requires some land, maybe small, in the beginning you can start in a small way, but it’s a very nice plan. That will be a very nice service for the children. Then they will be in the future pillars of devotional life in Bali. See our Lilavati when she came from the United States, you do not know, they are coming for the first time, I have not introduced to all of you, Lilavati and her husband Padmalochan. Padmalochan is from Italy, Lilavati is from America. Lilavati is a teacher, she is teaching in some very important schools in America. So when our school starts here, they can come as visiting professors. Then we will have within the campus, Vedic Cultural Training Center. That way the campus, we need a very, at least 5-6 acres of land. And then we will make some very nice teachers, we have so many educated people and we can invite some very qualified pandits from India to teach the children Vedic chanting and quotes. And we will include many cultural Vaishnava items from Bali. And our Manipuri sankirtana drummers from Manipur, teachers will come from Manipur. And from all over, wherever the Vaishnava culture is there we will take Odyssey dance from Orissa. Plus we will teach science, philosophy, and language and Sanskrit and English and many other world languages. And many, like painting, very nice and shloka memorization, all the Vedas. So in this way it will be wonderful centre of Vaishnava training and culture and education. In this way our little children will be trained properly. So this is very important education. I think the time has come that this has to be done as soon as possible.

Devotee: We plan, Maharaj, to start next year, we will start from the Kindergarten Maharaj.

BSDS: Yesterday one Parishad leader was  talking with Maharaj, how to strengthen this Vaishnava culture in Bali, also in a correct way. So about the Vaishnavas, 10-20 people come to India for a few years, get trained up nicely and come back and teach here. Exchange programs, in India and Bali. So I think it will be very important and we can have higher education, up to university, just like I said last time, University of Bhagavata Culture. So therefore this whole Bali can be spiritualized with Vaishnava culture and education (applause). In this way our Prabhupada will be extremely happy. Basically, these things you have to think about it very seriously and all the leaders should combine together. You should take it up as one of your very important projects, for all the devotees. This will be a very wonderful contribution to the world of culture. So lets see. I brought some prasadam from Jagannath Puri.

Devotees: jaya!

BSDS: Please take some prasada, and After that we will take bath and see, Maharaj, they are coming at 7 o’clock. Maybe you have to prepare for your cultural program?

(applause) You see, I tell many important people “You must go to Bali”. I talk a lot about Bali, Bali is a .-

Devotees: jaya!

BSDS: Many people want, the other day there was a telephone call came from the United States, conference telephone call, URI. Everyone remembers what happened a few years ago, they said “Dr. Singh, can we come again to Bali” (applause) I said “if all our Balinese friends invite me, I will definitely invite you.” So they are very happy, they want to come again. So if we have a very nice program, many important people will come. Bali and -  So therefore we have to work very nicely so that we can present the devotional culture very properly. You know better than me in doing these things so I pray that by the blessings of Prabhupada and Lord Sri Krishna you all remain very healthy and strong and proceed in devotional life joyfully, with great joy and enthusiasm. Then the whole world will be happy.

Jay Srila Prabhupada ki!

Jaya Bali Bhakta Vaishnava Vrinda ki!

Jaya Indonesia Bhakta Vaishnava Vrinda ki!

Jaya Gaura Premanande!

Devotees: Haribol!

Devotee: Shripad Guru Maharaj ki

BSDS: Jaya Shri Jagannath Mahaprasadam ki

Devotee: Ramavallabha prabhu has birthday today, there is a birthday cake there Maharaj. Amala also and Premadhana,

BSDS: Ramavallabha is 21? You are 21 year old today? (laughter). We need 3 flower garlands then. We have 3 flower garlands?

Devotee: I put on the table there from Gajapati Maharaj.

BSDS: Bring that. Very nice, Amala and Premadhana. These are three layers of cake?

Devotee: One layer (laughter).

BSDS: Where is the knife to cut?

Devotee: Another boy tomorrow.

BSDS: We’ll make one day ahead. There is a change of tithi (laughter).

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Recorded by: Balinese Devotee

Transcribed by: Amala Gaura Das

Edited by: Rupachandra Das