by ISKCON Manipur

INGA (June):

On the day of full moon of the month of Inga (June), the Vigrahas of Sri Sri Jagannatha, Balabhadra and Subhadra are taken out in the Prangal (verandah) of the Mandir. The brahmanas and pujaris of the temple will perform seva puja and snana of the Vigrahas. The day is called snana yatra day. Countless number of vaisnavas will attend the snana yatra festival and have darshana of Sri Sri Radha Govindaji.

INGEL (July):

On the second day of the bright fortnight of Ingel (July) Sri Jagannatha, Balabhadra and Subhadra will move out in a Ratha specially designed for the Ratha yatra festival. Before the Vigrahas are taken out of the temple, They will be properly decorated with beautiful garments. After that, the pujari will offer arati to the Vigrahas. Then the three Vigrahas will be shifted from the temple to the Ratha by using three well designed palanquins, to be carried by the selected pujaris and devotees involving the Gvala arati. Many sankirtana palas of Sri Govindaji will come in procession for offering devotional service while shifting the deities from the temple to the Ratha, kept ready for being pulled by the vaisnavas on the main road of the Govindaji palace complex. Seven groups (dals) of sankirtana palas will perform sankirtana during the Ratha yatra procession.
While taking the Vigrahas of Jagannatha, Balabhadra and Subhadra from the palanquins to the rotating Simhasana fixed on the wheel on the Ratha, the ceremony is accompanied by a musical band party followed by the sankirtana palas. Immediately after installation of the Vigrahas on the platform fixed on the Ratha, arati is being offered. The bhaktas and vaisnavas will start pulling the Ratha with band party in the front, followed by sankirtana palas, singing devotional songs and Harinama mahamantra. All the participants who come for darshana of the Ratha Yatra will chant loudly, in the same voice “Jaya Jagannatha, jaya Balabhadra and Jaya Subhadra” as they pull the Ratha by holding the ropes tied to the Ratha. All the fruits, flowers, etc., brought by the bhaktas and vaisnavas are put together in front of the Ratha displaying properly. Then arati puja is offered. After reaching the main gate of the palace complex, the Ratha will be pulled back along with the usual devotional services being offered. The platform on which the Vigrahas are placed will have a complete turn to face towards the returning direction. The band party followed by sankirtana palas will be in procession in front of the Lord. The Vigrahas will be taken back to the premises of the temple by using the palanquins used earlier. Thereafter an arati puja is offered and the Vigrahas are taken inside the temple on the simhasana and then arati puja is offered again.
A simple participation of the Ratha Yatra at the Govindaji’s temple complex cannot give complete satisfaction to the vaisnavas. On going back to their homes they take part again in the Ratha Yatra festival performed in every locality or Leikai where the Vigrahas of Jagannatha, Balabhadra and Subhadra are worshipped in the temples. Therefore, in Manipur the Ratha Yatra festival is observed in all the villages of the valley area of Manipur numbering more than 5000.
In the evening after the Sandhya arati, the devotional singers of the temple will sing the song composed by poet Jayadeva in a sweet rhythmic sound describing the ten avataras of Lord Sri Krishna. This singing with dancing joyfully is called by the Manipuri vaisnavas “Jayadeva Chongba”. The singing accompanied by dancing is unique that not only the elderly vaisnavas but also the young boys and girls alike take part in the singing and dancing of Jayadeva Chongba. On the ninth day, there will be observance of Punar yatra festival involving pulling of the Ratha as was done on the first day of the Ratha Yatra. Then on the day of dwadasi of Ingel, Hari Sayana is observed, after which Lord Jagannatha is believed to have taken a complete rest for a considerable period of time till the day of Hari Utthana.

THAWAN (August):

Beginning from the third day of the bright fortnight of the month of Thawan till the fullmoon day, the Jhulan Yatra is observed. During this period, many devotional services are offered to the Lord by having the sankirtana Nupapalas of two groups in succession without fail. A group of twentyfive male singers will perform sankirtana being offered to the Lord. Immediately after the Gvala arati, the Vigrahas of Sri Sri Radha Govinda will appear on the swing, specially prepared and decorated for the festival. After having Sri Sri Radha Govinda well decorated with beautiful dresses and ornaments, the brahmanas and pujaris offer arati puja. Such a devotional service will be continued till the end of the Jhulan festival. Countless number of bhaktas and vaisnavas will come to have the darshana of Sri Sri Radha Govindaji to their fullest satisfaction. All the fruits and flowers brought for offering to Sri Govindaji while corning for darshana will be displayed nicely on the plates kept on the floor properly cleansed in front of the swing. The idea behind the observance of full thirteen days Jhulan festival in the premises of Sri Govindaji temple is that Manipuri vaisnavas while celebrating it, remeber the pastimes of Sri Sri Radha Krishna on a swing hearing the scorching heat of the sun along with gopis and sakhis as the swing moves to and fro in the direction of the steadily moving breeze over of the Kunjas and Vanas (gardens) of creepers in Radhakunda and Vrindavana dhama.
On the eight day following the fullmoon the Janmastami festival is observed in memory of the advent of Lord Krishna on the earth as the son of Vasudeva and Devaki to protect the bhaktas, vaisnavas from the hands of the miscreants. On this occasion, several groups of female
On the first day of this month, the Manipuri vaisnavas worship the Govardhana hill by installing a model of Govardhana, made out of cowdung. The observance is meant for recalling of the performance of Govardhana puja by Lord Sri Krishna along with the elderly members, the gopas and gopis of Vrindavana Dhama instead of worshipping Indradeva, the king of heaven. On this day, the vaisnavas and vaisnavis of Manipur will bring their earliest yearly produce for offering to Lord Sri Govindaji. All the visiting vaisnavas and vaisnavis coming for darshana are served with Govindaji prasadam.
Starting from the fourth day of the bright fortnight of the month of Hiyangei (November) there will be some special changes of Vesa (dress) of Sri Sri Radha Govinda Vigrahas over and above the normal changes of Vesa as outlined earlier. The changes in the vesa day wise during the fortnight are briefly summarized as below :
Day Nature of dress Day Nature of dress
Caturthi – mala vesa Ekadasi – Raj vesa
Panchami – Napetali vesa Dwadasi:
Sasthi – Yogi vesa (Sri Govinda) - Dwari vesa
Saptami – Nauka Dharan vesa (Sri Radha) – Rairaj vesa
Astami - Natavara vesa Trayodashi – Malini vesa
Navami - Shyama vesa Caturdashi - Payjama vesa
Dasami – Subala vesa Purnima – Natavara vesa

At night, on the day of Hiyangei Purnima (full moon night of November) Rasa lila is offered to Sri Sri Radha Govindaji in the Rasamandal. This rasalila is taken by the Manipuri vaisnavas as the most sacred since it has been offered to the Lord in commemoration of the Rasa Lila elucidated in the Srimad Bhagavatam’s 10th Canto Chapter 29 Verse 1. On the day of Gopastami (Gosthastami) the pastime of herding the cattle by the gopas of Vrindavana, along with Sri Rama Krishna are reproduced every year in the temple complex of Sri Govindaji in the form of Sansenba Lila. The selected small children of vaisnavas of Manipur play the role of the gopas in the Lila. The Vigrahas of Sri Krishna and Sri Balarama are taken out from the Mandir to the playfield of the Sansenba Lila to witness it.
On the Sukla dwadasi day of Hiyangei (the 12th day of Hiyangei), the festival of Hari Utthana is observed annually in the Sri Govindaji temple. This festival is meant for reminding vaisnavas of the fact that Lord Sri Govindaji has got up from His long rest that was started from the day of the Sukla dwadasi of Ingel (July). Among the Manipuri vaisnavas there has been a long standing belief that Lord Sri Govinda has awaken from His deep slumber on the Sukla dwadasi of Hiyangei. Lord Sri Govinda will come out to give His unlimited blessings to the devotees. This is done by organising small Ratha festival of Hari Utthana. The background of this festival is that the vaisnavas of Manipur were very much impatient to have the darshana of Gopaldeva since (it was felt) they could not have it during the past four months. They could not bear this long separation and they stole the Vigraha of Gopaldeva from the nearby local Mandir one day prior to the day of Hari Utthana. The following day Gopaldeva was brought back to the Mandir in a small Ratha to the Mandir from where the Vigraha was stolen the previous night. This pulling of the small Ratha wherein Gopaldeva is graced on the small simhasana is called Hari Utthana Kang Chingba. The vaisnavas will offer fruits and flowers to the Gopaldeva in the Ratha with sankirtana chanting “Bola Jaya Radhe, Radhe Govinda” “Chant, Glory to Radharani, Glory of Radhe Govinda”.
On this day in the Govindaji temple, many groups of male singers perform sankirtana in front of the Vigrahas of Sri Sri Radha Govinda taken out from the mandir to the Mandapa. The Nupapala sankirtana is followed by the female singers, known as Rasheswari pala. Thereafter, the arati puja is offered before the Vigrahas are taken back to the Mandir.

POINU (December):

In the month of Poinu (December) there are no special festivals of Sri Govindaji except that of regular astakala seva puja.

WAKCHING (January):

In the month of Wakching (January) Tila Sankranti is observed indicating the approach of Uttarayana (the day when the sun crosses the Tropic of Capricorn and starts entering a space of a tila (sesame) towards the equator). On this day tila is offered to Lord Govindaji and it is taken as prasadam in every vaisnava family. There is a belief among the vaisnavas that if anyone who has not taken this tila prasadam on this day he is sure to take the form of an animal like dog instead of receiving human body in the next birth.

PHAIREL (February):

On the 5th day of Phairel a festival known as Phairel Panchami is observed to mark the beginning of spring season. From this day onwards, Sri Govindaji will be dressed in yellow colour including the crown (Kokthol) till the end of Lamda (March). On this day the spring fruits and flowers namely the mango blossom, the mustard plant flowers which are perfectly yellow in colour and the pea plant flowers are offered along with sankirtana.

LAMDA (March):

The Holi festival which is taken to be the most popular religious festival is observed annually from the Sukla Ekadasi day of Lamda (March) for full five days. During this period innumerable number of Holi palas including that of women will come to Sri Govindaji’s temple for Holiseva, specially on the second day of the festival that is called Peshakari, the spraying of colours among the devotees in a very ecstatic and joyful manner. This Holi festival is known in Manipuri language as Yaoshang.
In the beginning, the Holiseva to Sri Govindaji was performed by the Holiseva dals from the four panas (divisions) of Manipur namely Khurai, Wangkhei, Khwai, Yaiskul.
Due to the presence of the waisnavas groups of Holiseva dals from various parts of Manipur for offering Holiseva, the palas to Lord Sri Govindaji Holiseva could not be restritcted to the above mentioned four panas and as such the restriction was lifted and by now any Holiseva dal could offer Holiseva to Sri Govindaji. Further, in order to accommodate the offering of all devotees, the Holiseva was started from the Sukla astami day instead of from the Ekadasi day. This was made effective from the year 1982 by a joint decision of the devotees.
On the day of Halankar (on the fifth day after the purnima) all the Holi dals from Manipur gather in the premises of Sri Govindaji and from there starts a long procession of the Holi dals led by band party from Sri Govindaji temple towards Sri Vijaya Govindaji to perform the final Holiseva of the festival.

TRADITIONALLY ACCEPTED NORMS OF VAISNAVA CULTURE.
A brief description of thè daily life of Manipuri vaisnava:

At Brahma muhurta (early dawn) on getting up from sleep, the vaisnava before getting down from the bed, will touch the mother earth first with the right hand and again touch the forehead with the same hand three times and get down with the right foot first chanting ‘Hare Krishna.’ The philosophy behind this is that everybody is to treat the earth as his/her real mother in the sense that mother earth gives ample food grains and vegetable for the sustenance of all living beings on her lap, just like the mother feeds her baby with her breast milk.
Even a child of tender age is being guided to form a habit by following into what their parents do. Then the vaisnava while coming out of the house will offer obeisances to the Tulasi plant growing in the courtyard. The children of the vaisnava family are given the understanding that the Tulasi plant is very dear to Lord Sri Krishna and thus one should beg for blessings from Tulasi plant.
The first duty of a housewife in the early morning after fìnishing Pratar Kriya (morning duties for cleansing the body) is to keep the Tulasi area clean by sweeping and smearing of it with water along with cowdung. Thereafter the Tulasi plant will be worshipped by offering incense, light, and flower and pouring water and applying the mud from the foot of the Tulasi plant on the forehead. The elderly members of the family while coming out of their houses to perform their day-to-day earning activities will move out remembering Lord Sri Krishna. This is a continued process in the daily routine activities of all Manipuri vaisnavas.
Offering of anything to Lord Sri Krishna is made by a vaisnava in a state of sanctity after taking bath, by having tilaka on the forehead and wearing clothes properly washed and dried. The prepared food is always taken as Mahaprasadam after being offered to Lord Krishna. If it is not offered to the Lord, the vaisnava will not take it. The underlying meaning of this practice is that Lord Sri Krishna is supremely merciful and His pleasure is most important to the individual devotee.
The vaisnava, after taking bath either in a pond or river, should wear a clean and washed cloth. Then he will pour sacred water collected from the pond or river over the Tulasi plant and will collect a few drops of water drifting from the leaves of the Tulasi plant with the right hand. Then he sips a few drops of water thus collected and after sipping the water he will use the ring finger of the right hand to press on the wet soil at the foot of the Tulasi plant and then applies on the forehead to make a mark of Chandana in between the two eyebrows. The vaisnava will put a Tulasi leaf in the water pot and using the very water, a paste of Chandana is being made along with a piece of earth taken from the foot of the Tulasi plant on the palm of the left hand. With the paste of Chandana, a mark of Tilaka is put on the forehead first and then, to the twelve specified parts of the body. He will offer flowers and fruits or even water to Lord Sri Govinda by chanting some of the prayer slokas in front of the small murtis or pictures usually kept inside the Chandana box. After the puja is over, he will offer the cooked items to Lord Sri Govinda and prasadam will be given to the members of the family.
In the evening after the Sandhya prayer, the members of the vaisnava family will offer obeisances to the Tulasi plant and then enter the house. Even after returning home late at night from a far place, the vaisnava will never forget offering of obeisance to the Tulasi plant before entering the house. He will never violate the principle of honouring the Tulasi plant.
When the vaisnava hears any emotional burst of someone’s anger or unsocial behaviour, he will spontaneously utter words such as- Visnu ! Visnu ! Krishna ! Krishna! He will not make any comments. He will just submit to the Lord for His kind judgement. On the other hand when he sees another vaisnava in diffìculty, he will utter, “He Radhika” to console him praying to Srimati Radhika to shower Her mercy upon the vaisnava.
The tilaka mark on the forehead is so important to a Manipuri vaisnava that no one moves out of the house without a Chandana (tilaka) mark on the forehead after taking bath. It is also customary that every vaisnava should first take bath and move out of the house to attend to one’s day-to-day business. If there is no tilaka mark on the forehead, no adults including small children will not like to attend any religious ceremonies like marriage, shraddha and other pujas, etc. This shows that Krishna conscious people consider a very high spiritual value attached to the tilaka mark on the forehead.

VAISNAVA BIRTH CEREMONY:

The moment a child is born, the first sound the child is to receive is the transcendental sound of Hare Krishna Maha Mantra given by the father of the child or the male head of the family, or by a brahmana through the ears of the child. The purpose of this is to pray to Lord Sri Krishna to make the child Krishna conscious right from the moment of birth.
On the sixth day of the birth of a child a Puja is offered to Sri Krishna with fruits, flowers and other items seeking blessings from Lord Sri Krishna for the well being of the child. This is known as Swasthi Puja. The elderly persons who are well wishers of the parents of the child are invited to offer blessings to the child.
When the child is six months old a ceremony called Chaumba is performed on a very auspicious day. A puja will be offered to Lord Sri Krishna under the guidance of an experienced brahmana. After the puja, the baby will be given solid food for the first time in the form of Krishna prasadam. Thus from childhood, he/she is introduced to vaisnava culture.
It is customary on the part of the vaisnava family to observe annual disappearance day utsava of their forefathers accompanied by devotional sankirtana and many other formal offerings to Lord Sri Krishna inviting brahmanas, friends and relatives. Performance of such devotional activities are very important.
Among the Manipuri vaisnavas there is a common belief that the hair of the child that has been growing right from the mother’s womb is preserved till the completion of four or five years. After that an auspicious day is selected for shaving the hairs. On the day, a religious prayer is offered to Lord Sri Krishna begging His unlimited blessings upon the child for a happy, long and healthy life.
There has been a long standing traditional belief among the vaisnavas that there are marks of impression in each ear of the child called Nahutpham (a place meant for making a hole in it). The holes are made on the marks of impression of the ears. An auspicious day is selected for nahutpa (piercing of ears) utsava accompanied by sankirtana and fire sacrifìce.
The Manipuri vaisnavas strictly follow the vaisnava Dharma as enshrined in the Vedas. When a child is around eleven or twelve years old he is given initiation in a ceremony under a spiritual master which is called Nagun Thangba, wearing of sacred thread. The initiation gives an idea of the second birth of the child since he has become the child of the guru, having received the spiritual knowledge. It has been a belief among the vaisnavas that life without initiation under a bonafide guru is just like someone trying to cross the vast ocean of Samsara without a destination to reach. If the boy or girl could not have initiation at the age of 12/13 years, it is compulsory that he/she should get initiation, before entering a married life, from a qualified Guru following the Guru Parampara System.

VAISNAVA DEATH CEREMONY:

When a patient is seriously ill and no hope for survival is seen, a brahmano, is called to recite Bhagavatam along with the Harinama Sankirtana so that the patient may get the opportunity of listening to the pastimes of Lord Sri Krishna and the chanting of Harinama Mahamantra. At the time of death, having taken out of the bed, the dying patient is placed on the South east corner of the court yard, called “Khangembam”, in a small thatched house erected temporarily called Shang that will be burnt along with the dead body. After having been given the idea of the journey towards his destination by the vaidya (physician), the atma of the patient will take leave of the gross body. By this time the devotional singers will continue singing Harinama.
After completion of the preparation of theè fumeral pyre meant for performing Yajna of chita, the dead body is placed inside a coffin made of wood plank being covered with a white cloth along with a Namabali immediately above the head of the dead body.
Thereafter, four persons of his/her close relatives preferably the sons or brothers will carry the coffin to the funeral ground. The Harinama sankirtana party will lead the funeral march. On reaching the funeral ground the dead body is given bath, then dwadasa tilaka is applied. Thereafter, the four carriers circumbulate the pyre once or thrice carrying the dead body. After this the body is kept on the pyre in such a manner that the other end of the coffin is to reach the other end of the chita at three intervals. The body is covered with the big logs of firewood after removing the covering clothes.
After offering puja to the firegod, the next kin of the deceased will carry a pot of water on his shoulder and holding a piece of burning wood in his right hand will go round the funeral pyre five or seven times followed by his relatives and near and dear ones. While going around the pyre the carrier of the pot will pour out some water from the pot backwards at the four corners of the funeral pyre for every round. After this the next kin of the deceased will put the burning wood below the coffin and others will follow it. He will first fan the funeral pyre with “Yangkok. ”
After returning from the cremation ground all the persons involving in the cremation process will take bath and they will be received with fire outside the gate before entering the house. A water pot with tulasi leaf will be kept in the courtyard. After given reception with fire, they will use a few drops of Tulasi water for sipping and sprinkling over the head and the body. The returning journey from the cremation ground to the house is called “Mangarakpa” in Manipuri.
Before the body gets reduced completely to ashes a small piece of bone will be taken from the forehead which will be kept somewhere in a safe place inside the hole of a small bamboo piece or small bottle. For those persons who have taken the renounced order of life, on the sixth day after the cremation, the small piece of bone kept will be collected after being purified with Vedic mantra. The piece of bone thus collected is known as “Chintamani”. This process is called Asthi Sanchaya, which involves the cleaning of a part of the cremation ground. The person who is to take the Chintamani will take bath and sit beside the brahmana who will recite vedic mantra to purify the Chintamani by using Panchagavya (cow-dung, cow-urine, cow-milk, yogurt and clarified butter) and then finally dipped in thè Gangajala (Ganges water), Ratnodaka (Diamond /gold dipped water), Gandhodaka (water mixed with chandana), Puspodaka (flower dipped water) and Kevalajala (plain water) contained in the donas (cups made of banana leaf). After the purification process, Chintamani is wrapped in a cloth preferably silk tightly. The ends of the cloth are tied up and then placed around the neck of a person who is supposed to carry the Chintamani. During the purification process, there will be kirtana to fill up the surrounding with spiritual vibration. While coming along with the Chintamani someone will use an umbrella to keep the person carrying the Chintamani covered from the sun.
During the period of the observance of Ashthi sanchaya all the participants will come wearing clean clothes, white for the male and light orange (Pungou phanek) for the female and participate in making prayer to Lord Krishna for the departed soul. The person carrying the Chintamani, on reaching the residence will move round the Srimad Bhagavatam placed in the courtyard specially cleaned and decorated under a roof in a clockwise and prostrate before the Srimad Bhagavatam and singers. Then he offers obeisances to the assembled vaisnavas and vaisnavis. This process comes to an end after offering arati to Srimad Bhagavatam.
Shraddha ceremony is observed on the fourteenth day of the disappearance of the person. On this occasion the Hari sankirtana seva is performed along with the dakshina seva to all the assembled devotees and invitees.
After the shraddha ceremony, on completion of one full month from the disappearance day, an utsava is offered to please Lord Govindaji. This is done for every month. After the completion of one year, a big Mahotsava is performed along with Hari sankirtana. This is known as “Phiroi”. Brahmanas, vaisnavas, relatives and friends are invited on this occasion.
The above mentioned discussion on the line of the traditionally accepted features of the vaisanava culture in Manipur refers to the analysis of the vaisnavism in a nutshell, which was strictly followed by the vaisnavas of Manipur before the coming of the western influence in the daily life of the Manipuris. With the coming of the western system of education, the agelong vaisnava tradition of Manipur has been seriously affected specially to the younger generation of today’s Manipur. However, there are devout vaisnavas who are strictly following the vaisnava principles.

The spiritual master is always concerned about the wellbeing of the disciples. The affection and care of the spiritual master for his disciple are clearly visible in the relationship between Srila Prabhupada and Sripada Maharaja. Srila Prabhupada’s remarks about Sripada Maharaja made during the period from 1970 to 1977 collected from conversation volume and other volumes are a garland of blessings and confidence of the spiritual master to his disciple. Some selected remarks are listed here and we, the disciples of Sripada Maharaja feel very fortunate to bave these wonderful remarks.

“I think you should not think of relinquishing your job
without meeting me and
discussing the matter deeply.
Don’t do anything out of sentiment.
You must make the best use of a bad bargain.
Unless you keep your job,
you will not be considered an important man
in the material sense. And, if you are
not an important man, then who will listen to you?”
- Letter to Svarupa Damodara Dasa, Evanston, Illinois 75-08-23

Prabhupada: “Svampa Damodara must be the best
candidate. Others, what they’ll know about it? All other
Ph.D.s, they are simply rubber stamped. Actually they
have no knowledge. Svarupa Damodara has solid
knowledge. He has learned from us. Therefore he’s writing
all these books. He has rejected his so-called scientifìc
knowledge. He has completely understood that so called
scientifìc knowledge is bogus, it has no solid background.
Now, he’s writing books on this.”
- Room Conversation, Detroit, June 15, 1976

“Therefore, out of so many scientists in the country only you and a few others are understanding the importance of this subject matter – manusyanam sahasresu.
So please work very hard,
following our rules and regulations and you will always remain in the fìre of Krishna consciousness.”
- SPL to Svarupa Damodara, 23rd June 1975

“So we have got a great mission.
You are one of the strong pillars of the mission…
Be fully strong to push on this cult amongst
the educated scientifìc circle…
When you present more scientifically,
they will be convinced.”
- SPL to Svarupa Damodara Dasa, September 8, 1974

“… so aim yourself at the top-class of men
and give them every opportunity to
become convinced of our philosophy and
engage themselves to their satisfaction.
That will be the best contribution.”
- SPL to Svarupa Damodara Dasa, December 13, 1972.

“… appeal yourself to the high class of men,
not the mass. Mass, too, we do not eliminate anyone,
but if the best men are there to run on things,
mass will follow later.”
- SPL to Svarupa Damodara Dasa, December 13, 1972.

‘Therefore, I took it so seriously. Every morning walk, I was,
“Where is the scientist?”
I thought “Here I have got an opportunity to
impress that will fructify in fruition.”
That was my aim. Therefore, I was bothering you in so many ways.’
- Room Conversation, Bombay, March 27, 1977

“If one has got unflinching faith in Krishna and His
representative, guru, then all the knowledge
will be revealed to him automatically.
Just like yourself. You are a big scientist.
You have talked with me, you have studied with me,
and you have examined me in so many ways.
And I have also spoken whatever I had knowledge.
Unless you are convinced, how you can say that
‘You are my spiritual master?”
- Lecture, Srimad-Bhagavatam 1974

Prabhupada: “So life is the origin”.
Svarupa Damodara: “Life started from life.
It cannot start from matter”.
Prabhupada: “If you establish this theory,
you will get also Nobel Prize.
Yes, try for… Yes, do it.
And all these rascals will be defeated.
Do that… Do this by your education…
Simply we have to present it scientifically.
That’s all”.
- Morning walk, Los Angeles, May 2, 1973

“If these boys, in their scientific language,
they try to convince, that will be more effective,
We are generally speaking that
“Water has come from Krishna,” or
“The earth has come from Krishna.”
That may be blind.
But if it is scientifically presented,
how it has come from Krishna,
then they cannot refute so easily.
So that I am engaging this doctor of chemistry,
Svarupa Damodara and Raya Ramananda.
Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s two personal associates,
Svarupa Damodara and Ramananda.”
- Room Conversation Vrindavan, October 31, 1973

“…so if I would not have students like you,
they would have taken me as crazy man.
But now I have engaged you to prove them rascals.
That is my ambition.”
- Morning Walk Bhubaneswar, February 1, 1977

“This boy was stubborn athiest. …
And he was walking with me on the seaside,
and I was chastising him,
kicking him, and refuting. (laughs)
Now he has organized this Bhaktivedanta Institute.
- Room Conversation Vrindavan, July 26, 1977

Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions to Sripada Maharaja

The quality of a genuine disciple is always to beg for the instructions of the spiritual master. The instructions of the spiritual master are the life and soul of a genuine disciple. The instructions given by Srila Prabhupada to his beloved disciple Sripada Maharaja on Scientific presentation of Krishna Consciousness among the Scientists, Philosophers and Intellectuals of the world; on Manipur; on Education and Culture and on Bhaktivedanta Institute are the real indications of the ideal relationship that exists between a genuine disciple and his spiritual master. From these instructions we can see that Srila Prabhupada had showered immense blessings upon Sripada Maharaja. These are a great source of inspiration for us as well. The instructions listed herewith in the form of “qoutes” are mainly from the Conversation Volume and Letters and Lecture Volumes of Srila Prabhupada.

Scientific Preaching of Krishna Consciousness

“Advanced people are eager to understand
the Absolute Truth through the medium
of science, and therefore a great scientist should
endeavour to prove the existence of
the Lord on a scientifìc basis.”
- Srimad Bhagavatam, 1.5.22 purport.

“Although there are so many departments
of knowledge, medicine, astronomy, etc.,
the science of God is still to be introduced.
When the scientist philosopher medical man
will get the opportunity to study systematically
what is God, what are His energies,
what is my relationship, how to approach Him,
then only there will be paradise.”
- Letter, Calcutta, June 10,1970

“If we can convince the intelligent class of
men of our Krishna philosophy then o
ur success for changing the position of your
country and the rest of the world
from a very dangerous condition is assured”
- SPL to Svarupa Damodara Dasa, Mayapur, March 1, 1972.

“As there is need of medical man, engineer or lawyer or other, similarly,
there is need of expert who knows the science of soul… The
medical man, the engineer, the archaeologist
or this or that, they are all meant for the body.
Similarly, there must be one expert section
who are meant for the soul.”
- Room conversation, Caracas, February 22, 1975

“So by study of Srimad-Bhagavatam under
the bonafìde spiritual master, one becomes
aware of the full value of life,
and then he revives his original Krishna consciousness.
That is the perfection of life. The individual soul
is already under specific material nature,
and the process is going on in lower grades of life,
but in the human form of life by advancement of education,
one can become above the modes of material nature. The
chance is given to him. This is stated in Bhagavad-gita:
yanti devavrata devan. So if he likes he can go back to
Godhead: yanti mad yajino ‘pi mam, and stop this
transmigration process. Then he comes again perfect in
Krishna consciousness.”
- SPL to Svarupa Damodara, 31 August, 1975

“Unless there is a strong body to present
God Consciousness proposals to
the leaders of the world, there will be no hope.
We have taken Bhagavad-gita as
the standard of all human activities.
If the leaders of the human society take
it as standard, then all the problems will be solved.”
- SPL, Los Angeles, June 4, 1976.

“If the scientists, philosophers,
they take up seriously then it will be good
for the general mass of people.
yad yad acarati sresthas ”
- Room conversation, Los Angeles, June 22, 1975.

“If a scientist, if he proves Krishna’s
supremacy by scientifìc law, then his knowledge in science is perfect.”
- Prabhupada Lecture, Bhagavad-Gita, Bombay, April 4, 1971.

“First of all you have to establish that
life is not from matter. Matter is from life.
Then they (referring to scientists) will be
under your control …. First of all
you have to establish this.
Why don’t you write a theory and get Nobel Prize?
This is a fact.”
- Morning Walk, May 9, 1973

“If we can prove that life comes from life,
or the soul is from the Super soul,
then all other things can be brought into
serious consideration. So you try to prove that
chemical combination can never bring about life,
this is our main argument, if we can prove
this particular subject matter,
that the soul can’t be manufactured
by combination of chemical, then gradually
we can prove that vedic knowledge is perfect,
while other sources of knowledge by speculation and imagination are all wrong.”
- Letter Date Dec. 17, 1975

“…We are now sending our representatives
all over the world to the scientists.
Here is Dr. Svarupa Damodara, Ph.D… he
was invited by many universities, schools, colleges.
So this movement is not a sentimental movement.
It is the scientific movement. It is the most elevated, scientific movement.”
- Prabhupada Lectures, Bhagavad-Gita, 1974.

On Manipur

“So, fìrst thing make your headquarters in Bombay, and make Manipur a Vaisnava state.”
- Room conversation, Mayapur, February 18, 1977

“After the G.B.C, assembly in Vrindavana,
Svarupa Damodara had travelled to Manipur
and Calcutta and was now returning to
Vrindavana to see Srila Prabhupada.
As soon as Prabhupada heard Svarupa Damodara
had arrived he asked to see him.
As usual, Srila Prabhupada treated him very
specially and gave him much time and attention.
From Prabhupada’s first meeting with
Svarupa Damodara when Svarupa Damodara
had been Thoudam Singh, a Ph.D. candidate in Physical Organic
Chemistry at University of California, Irvine, Prabhupada had
taken great care to cultivate their relationship.”
- “Srila Prabhupada Lilamrita” Vol. 6, p.333

“So make Manipur a strong centre and preach. The other side, Manipur, next is Burma?”
- Room conversation, January, 30, 1977. Bhubaneswar

“So I could understand that Manipur has
got great potential of Bhakti marga.
They are born … Babhruvahana.
You descendant of Babhruvahana, Arjuna’s son.
So let there be at least one country- ideal brahmana,
ideal ksatriya. And people are submissive to
Krishna Consciousness. I have seen. In Vrindavana and Navadvipa
there are many Manipuris.”
- Srila Prabhupada, conversation-Extra.

“… make Manipur a big centre of Vaisnava.
You are descendants of Babhruvahana.
There is no doubt about it. Vaisnava rajya.
Make Manipur a strong centre of Krishna,
and it will be easily done, strong vaisnava center,
ksatriya, I would like to see this …The Manipur is already …
For the last fìve thousand years at least,
their name is in the Bhagavatam, Manipur.
And still they are Vaisnavas. They have got temples
in Navadvipa, in Vrindavana.”
- Room conversation, Bhubaneswar, January 30, 1977.

“Pandava Arjuna:
The great hero of the Bhagavad-gita. … He married four wives, Draupadi, Subhadra,
Citrangada and Ulupi. From whom he got
four sons of the names Srutakirti, Abhimanyu,
Babhruvahana and Iravan respectively…
Royal families at Manipur and Tripura are
descendants of Arjuna’s son Babhruvahana… Similarly, he met
Citrangada, a daughter of the King of Manipura, and thus
Babhruvahana was born.”
- Bhagavatam 1. 12. 21 (PURPORT)

“Now Manipur, make a very enlightened state.
I have got very good respect for your state because
Arjuna is there, Arjuna’s son.
So you make an ideal state, Indian culture.
I wanted to go only for this reason,
that you take it very seriously, make a centre of Scientifìc Vaisnava Culture.”
- Srila Prabhupada, conversation-Extra.

“Let us have a small ideal state. If respectable gentlemen take it,
oh, it will be a great success,
an ideal state throughout the whole world,
Vaisnava state. … Show their (Manipur) policemen,
all with tilaka, and marching,
“Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare,
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. Hare…”
- Room Conversation, Mayapur, February, 20, 1977

“We shall train them. Military march, Manipur.
Slogan: “Jaya Radhe! Jaya Krishna!
Jaya Babhruvahana! Jaya Arjuna!”
And then let us go …Manipur Vaisnava state,
send missionary all over the world,
bonafìde, scientifìc System of religion, ideai character.”
- Room Conversation, Mayapur, February, 20, 1977

“So… make Manipur a Vaisanava State…
There must be some state, ideal state. Just like the Russia is Communist State,
and they’re making nice propaganda, similarly we must have a Krishna conscious state.”
- Room Conversation, Mayapur, February 28, 1977

“Let us cooperate. The Manipur is already…
For the last fìve thousand years at least,
their name is in the Bhagavatam, Manipur.
And still they are Vaisnavas.
They have got temples in Navadwipa, in Vrindavana.
So Manipur have cele…”
- Room conversation, Bhubaneswar, January, 30, 1977.

“Now arrange for big festival.
There is a program, Manipur.
I want to start in that small state varnasrama idea.
That is my dream. Small state it can be done,
brahmana, ksatriya ...”
- Room conversation, Mayapur, February 14, 1977.

“So Manipuri people are very nice,
So why not organize? Rejuvenate them.
So you are the Manipur’s son.
Now you are perfect Vaisnava.
Now let us make Manipur a Vaisnava
ksatriya centre, very nice. Then make relation with Nepal.
Nepal, they are ksatriyas also.”
- Room conversation, Bhubaneswar, January 30, 1977

Svarupa Damodara:
“Cause that’s the neighbour,
it’s only about ten miles from Manipur.
Its’s close to Mandalay. Used to be..
The kings of Manipur used to invade this Burma,
especially Mandalay, to fight.
So we can go to Burma from there.”
- Room conversation, April 18, 1977, Bombay

“It is to be understood that
Parvati is the daughter of the king of the
very, very old mountainous country
known as the Manipur state…
Five thousand years ago, therefore,
when the Pandavas ruled,
Manipur existed, as did its king.
Therefore this kingdom is a very old,
aristocratic vaisnava kingdom.
If this kingdom is organized as a Vaisnava state,
this revitalization will be a great success
because for five thousand years this state
has maintained its identity.
If the Vaisnava spirit is revived there,
it will be a wonderful place,
renowned throughout the entire world.
Manipuri Vaisnavas are very famous in Vaisnava society.
In Vrindavana and Navadwipa there are many temples
constructed by the kings of Manipur.
Some of our devotees belong to the Manipur state.
The Krishna consciousness movement, therefore,
can be well spread in the state of Manipur by the cooperative
efforts of the Krishna conscious devotees.
- Srimad Bhagavatam (Purport), 9.22.3

On Education

“There are hundreds and thousands of universities
all over the world… there is no department of
knowledge where the science of the soul is taught”.
- Lecture, Bhagavad-Gita, Los Angeles, August 7, 1969

“There should be school, college to understand what is God.”
- Morning Walk, Los Angeles, December 9, 1973.

“If you have got some knowledge,
you distribute the knowledge for Krishna’s.
How you can do that?
Whatever knowledge you have got,
you try to describe Krishna…
This is the first-class distribution of knowledge.
Whatever you know, you try to explain
Krishna by that knowledge.
Just like our Dr. Svarupa Damodara.
He’s a scientist, and now he is trying to
explain Krishna through his scientific knowledge”.
- Prabhupada Lectures, Srimad Bhagavatam, 1974

“The Krishna Consciousness Movement is trying to
educate people about this science, how to go back to home,
back to Godhead. It is not a so-called religious movement.
Of course, anything which has connection with God,
you can take it as religious movement.
But it is very scientific movement.
For the big scientists, philosophers, thinkers,
they should try to understand this movement”.
- General Lecture, 1975

“Now our Ph.D.’s must, collaborate and
study the fifth canto to make the model for
building the Vedic Planetarium.
My fìnal decision is that the universe
is just like a tree, with root upwards…
So now you all Ph.D.’s must carefully study
the details of the fifth canto and make
a working model of the universe.
If we can explain the passing seasons,
eclipses, phases of the moon, passing of day and night,
etc. then it will be very powerful propaganda.
I am sending this letter to you,
and you can make photocopies of it and
send to our other Ph.D.’s and begin serious
research into the matter in detail.”
- SPL, April 27, 1977.

On Culture

“We want a stronghold of this (vedic) culture,
and I think it will be possible in Manipur.
Daivi-Varnasrama. Make. There must be
first-class brahmanas, first-class ksatriyas,
first-class vaisyas and first-class sudras also.
Never mind. Ideal. The whole world will see that
here is the real culture, Vedic culture.”
- Srila Prabhupada, conversation-Extra.

“Because your wife is fully trained as classical dancer,
even she taught in such big university,
so she can organize classical dancing to portray
stories about Krishna and His pastimes and
that will be very nice proposal. Recently in Bombay
we have held a benefit charity performance called
“Hare Krishna Benefìt” performed by the Javeri Sisters,
a famous classical dancing group from Manipur.
These dancers were depicting stories from Krishna’s
Pastimes, and the dancing was very nice.
So this art of dancing, as any art, can be also
employed in the service of glorifying the Supreme Lord.
If she is expert dancer, your wife can organize
a dancing group to depict very exquisitely
stories from our Krishna Book.”
- SPL to Prajapati, Mayapur, 25 February, 1972

On Bhaktivedanta Institute

“The purpose of the Bhaktivedanta Institute
is to achieve the distinction of human life”
- Letter dated Sept. 30, 1975

“The Institute will be primarily for those
who have not entered our temples.”
“It will be a formal education and they will get degree.
It will be open for every one, including those
who have already entered our temples,
they may also participate. But, the subject matter
should not be different from what is in the temples.”
- Letter Sept. 30, 1975

“And this (BI preaching) is solid work, yes.
It must be done. Without any hesitation,
without any impediment.
That will increase our prestige of the movement.
In suit, yes.
You get fìrst dress, then address.”
- Srila Prabhupada, Room conversation, Bombay, March 31, 1977

“So that duty is now entrusted to you,
in your hands. Do it very nicely.
Krishna will help you.”
- Srila Prabhupada, Morning Walk, Bhubaneswar, February 1, 1977

“Turn the whole building into
Bhaktivedanta Institute.
And another building start.
Yes … I want that the intelligent man
should come and learn this science.”
- Room conversation, Bombay, March 26, 1977.

“You may be knowing that we nave formed
one party of scientists under the leadership of
Sriman Svarupa Damodara Prabhu.
Also we have formed the Bhaktivedanta Institute
for organizing scientific presentations
of Krishna Consciousness.
This party is our most important preaching arm
with which we will be able to destroy the bogus
speculation and cheating which goes under
the banner of scientific advancement.
Therefore, I have got great hope for
Svarupa Damodara and his colleagues.
I want them to travel vigorously throughout the world
to lecture in all universities and other institutions.
There is no lack of fìnancial resources and we shall spare
nothing to see to this party’s success.”
- SPL to Amarendra Das, April 2, 1977.

“Whenever you speak,
speak scientifìcally about Krishna’s existence.
Our mission is to turn the people to become devotees
so that they can see Krishna.”
- Srila Prabhupada’s letter to Svarupa Damodara, September 8, 1974

“So you make it a point, six months outside, six months here.
And all your expenditure
will be spent by the Society.
We shall beg and pay if there is no income.
But they must be allowed to go from
place to place. That is our real business.”
- Srila Prabhupada, Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara, Bhubaneswar, February 3, 1977

“Make a strong party and you travel extensively
all over the world, amongst the scientists,
and whatever amount is required, I shall spend.”
- Srila Prabhupada, Room conversation, Bombay, March 31, 1977

“I want to give you the best place in Bombay.
Because you have to invite so many respectable,
big scientists.”
- Srila Prabhupada, Room conversation Vrindavana, June 21, 1977

“The whole human society
is affected by this misleading theory.
We have to make program,
go from place to place and invite all big men,
all scientists.”
- Srila Prabhupada, Morning Walk, Los Angeles, May 3, 1973

“This is the beginning.
And arrange for such conference
one after another, many…. Do something
for that before my departure.
I can see something.”

Bedugul, Bali, Indonesia, Dec 28, 2005

Hare Krsna, I d like to thanks all of you for your coming from different great planets…

So, Bhaktivonoda Thakur says, that in most people sleeping, so therefore it is good to understand that we are waking up from deep slumber…slumber mean sleep. So by the blessing of Prabhupada that so…we given this wonderful understanding that we have to get up from this deep sleep. To wake up means…what do we do when we wake up? just like the sun rising in early in the morning and then …we see everything is look up a beautiful life and we can see around, also we can remember the beautiful  birds and so many wonderful things happening when we wake up in the morning. So this understanding of waking up of from deep sleep, deep sleep means one completely in the mood of ignorance, darkness, tamoguna.  When tamoguna is influenced the individual, we just like in a deep slumber or deep sleep. But only go to the Vaikuntha planet by we leave this body, and we  go to Vaikuntha planet…in Vaikuntha planet all living entities never sleeps. So therefore  is hours in the morning, always likes a morning-morning hours. When I came to Bali, in the morning I always  heard a beautiful music from a little birds that always come near me and sing a beautiful song that reminds me the Vaikuntha planet. In another day when we  working a whole night…we re left  after four o’clock in the morning, and when I come out from the door I saw a beautiful bird singing  little far and he was singing; “Swamiji….in the birds song but the song says in English that, “Krsna is The Supreme Personality of Godhead”. So, I heard the same song, the same music about 10 years ago when I had a little operation a removement of stone and I spend some days in Bombay. But in Bombay by next of my room there’s was a coconut tree, Bombay is also like Bali. And in that coconut tree, this little bird come every day, every day early in the morning I heard the same song, “Swamiji…Krsna is The Supreme Personality  of Godhead”. So what I heard the same song another day in Bali, o…this is a message…massage, a bird from Vaikunta planet. Therefore, that Krsna Consciousness is the culture of Vaikuntha, people in Vaikunthaloka.

There is also a beautiful song, I will sing a song. The song called arunodaya kirtan, actually sung when the sun is coming… rising…the rising sun. So the meaning is ..very beautiful (Guru Maharaja read song’s the translation);

“As the rising sun colored the eastern horizon. Lord Gaurasundara, the jewel of twice born woke up. Gathering his devotees around him, he went to walk in the town of Nadia. The mrdangga made tathai…tathai sounds…tathai is the name of the language of mrdanga ..and the cymbals played along rhythmically. The lord’s golden limbs tremble with ecstasy  of divine love and his ankle bell jingle.

And the lord explained to his followers, just chant the name of Krsna, Mukunda, Madhava, Yadava and Hari. Your night has wasted in useless sleep and your day is lost in decorating your body. Then He says, having received this human body that we so difficult to attain, why do u still remain unconscious of this value. If you do not worship the son of Mother Yasoda now, then you regretted in the time of death.

When the rising sun sets u become anxious because another day has in lost, why then do you remain idol and lordships the lord of your heart. The essentials thing to know is that life is temporary and full of dangerous. Therefore, take shelter of the holy name with great care, while continuing  to do your own occupation or duty.

Then He says, desiring to bring auspiciousness to all souls, the holy name has descended into this material world to remove darkness and ignorance and to shine in the sky of heart. And Bhaktivinod says, please give Bhaktivinoda life by drinking the pure nectar of holy name. There is nothing more value in this fourteen worlds other than holy name”.

Jai jai harinama mahasankirtana ki..jai…

Hare krsna…hare krsna…hare krsna…jai..jai harinama mahasankirtana ki…jai..

Harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam, kalau nastyeva nastyeva nastyeva gathir anyatha. Jai Srila Prabhupada ki..,Jai Sri Gauranga Mahaprabhu ki..jai..jai Vaikuntha Bhakta Vaishnava Vrnda ki jai…Gaura Premanande…

Udilo aruna purabe-bhage (Maharaja singing arunodaya kirtana song with devotees)

Hare krsna hare krsna krsna krsna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare

Prema dhavani…then Guru Maharaja speaks again;

“Hare krsna, somehow the sun also coming, the lakes on the right side and the trees also enjoying. Vaikuntha is like that…very peaceful, Vaikuntha mean peace, Vaikuntha means place there is anxiety and no worry. So Krsna consciousness is a training how to enter Vaikuntha world. So therefore this is the most, highest, the most important culture. Therefore we have to learn how to remain very steady, steady means dhira, dhira means very very peaceful in ourselves and peaceful with everyone…So the culture of how became dhira, dhira means very stable, very balance, balance life, and also always taking the blessing the higher authorities is the essence of Krsna Consciousness.

So I m very happy to see devotees from Singaraja…some devotees come from Singaraja right? Can you rise your hand? Id like to thank all of u for coming, by your sincere prayer there is good day today, and no rain this time. Yesterday we have in Klungkung but the rain was very very strong. So we have a special blessing today from…because the authority of Vaikuntha, so therefore the lord blessing us. Very nice.

So I m leaving actually the day after tomorrow morning. This trip is unplanned trip. Then the messages came that I must go for doing some duties, an important duties. I just leave  even I leave my luggage in Calcutta, but  I only came by my dhoti. So this duty was to do something, to organize some program, a more  important preaching, preaching duty in Bali. It s takes two more day to complete. And our…some of our devotees working hard so they don’t sleep for last three or four day, and they only take one glass water every day. They working very hard, but they doing well, finished. So, many of you also contributed something because it is required. I d like thanks all of u for your contribution because contribution is required for completing this work. So please stay well, I intend to return maybe in summer time, summer means around July and I will stay in longer time..will do a lot of programs.

And I want to make announcement that this year from April, I m touring with cultural group from Manipur, I taking more than 20 artist to around USA, drumming, martial arts. Anybody who doesn’t agree I also have martial arts groups…so this is martial arts function (laughter). I will stay about three month until May-June, July I will come and we also plans to invite many artist from all around the world…this is due to invite for opening festival in  Manipur, 2007.  I like to request all of you, to come in Manipur temple opening, 2007 in month of October.

So I suggested to by one boat. You can from here come to harbour in Calcutta, Calcutta is  nearby. It takes about 25 days by boat (laughter). And when u came to Calcutta you said that you are from Manipur, Manipuris. So there is no visa required. They will very happy, then you said that you coming from Bombay for special picnic and now coming in Calcutta. So in this way  please plans. If you don’t find a boat, you can take helicopter…and there will be a very big  festivals…very nice festivals.

Our four devotees from Bali that already in Manipur trying to finished, and they said not to leave Manipur until the temple finished. So by this preparation  pursuing, so please plans from now. But there are also cheap flight if you go by the other way. There are flight…we have like Asia Air, Jet Star…is Dhira Kesava here? Dhira Kesava at this year in Vrndavan recently going by that flight. Also Malaysia airline…very cheap. Many ways  to going there. So Please plans. It will be very cold at this time, Manipur is like this…like this cold. This invitation you keep in mind and you save one rupiah (Indonesian Currency) every day…(laughter), by that way there’s no many problem.

I’m very happy that to see, and also able to come for few days and see all of you. So in Vrndavan a few days ago many devotees gather together and had a very nice program. About many devotees said that they want to do again in Bali, they wants to come to Bali. And also the other group also said, “maharaja we want to go to Bali”, URI also said “maharaja arrange something that we all want to going to Bali”. And our science group from around the world, they call me “Dr Singh you arrange program in Bali, we wants to come to Bali”. Bali is very…I always ask everyone, you come to Bali than you get peace. So, therefore many important program make on, and this program that we are trying to completed is just to facilitate that…we can do some nice program. Because you have so many young devotees, we want to engage all of you very nicely so that you always remain busy. And also we will begin a very nice school for the children. I look so many children, but the school  will be  an English medium school. So that, not only school but we will have all the activities of  Vaikuntha. That means Vedic culture, Vedic culture activities…there will be art and culture, Balinese is very nice in art. And a very important music, musical courses, and philosophy abut Krsna Consciousness. And even prasadam…international prasadam. We will bring recipes from Vaikuntha, Vaikuntha recipes. Vaikuntha recipes was…you know  there is a very nice big…big red gulab jamun, and we will have a nice preparation from black rice, palm sugar…that’s all Vaikunta items. So therefore we plan …if you have some government friend, we need at least 50 acre of lands. So We will have a very nice campus and will have a wonderful program, and all the scientist around the world will come and join the program. This is our prayer and by Prabhupada blessing, please pray so that you remain healthy and strong, become remain  strong Krsna Conscious following the principles, and in this way we can gone nicely in Krsna Consciousness.

I think we should walk now for a little right? Make little…I saw the gate was quiet nice, I want to take a picture there because I taking some sample here to finish  our temple in Manipur. Because when we  sitting, it is good to do some exercise. In Vaikuntha…all the inhabitants of Vaikuntha always do some spiritual exercise…(laughter)

Jai Srila Prabhupada ki..jai..

Jai Srila Bhaktisvarupa Damodar Svami Maharaja ki…jai..

End.

SP: Therefore they are suffering only for the matter of knowing something, kevala krishanti.kevala [indistinct word]. Krishanti means taking trouble unnecessarily.  What do you gain by this knowledge? You cannot solve your problems.

BSDS: That is why the brains of the scientists are very busy in thinking all these things, how to try to understand this natural phenomena, all the time busy.

SP: Therefore Bhagavat says, idaḿ hi puḿsas tapasaḥ śrutasya vā[i] . Your education, brain should be uitlised how to know God. Not that how the chemical is deposited, you see.  avicyuto ‘rthaḥ kavibhir nirūpito, yad-uttamaśloka-guṇānuvarṇanam. Rather try to describe how Krsna, God, has made this arrangement. Then it will be kirtana. Simply add this verse that God has deposited this way, this way. That will be described in the Bhagavatam, one after another how creation is being made. But the original point is creator is God. How God is creating, if we describe scientifically, that means it is  kirtana, chanting the glories of the Lord. That they will not do…they’ll end.. “perhaps, maybe” that’s all. “Perhaps, maybe” that’s all. At least Einstein at last he admitted “maybe there is God” like that?

BSDS: Yes. He believes that the natural laws are governed by controllers, different controllers

SP: Oh he believes?

BSDS: Einstein believes. Like  Einstein’s- one of his -  like Fermi or Dirac-  there exists a very famous scientist, almost contemporary and he did not believe in the existence of God. When Einstein developed his theory of relativity, Heisenberg and  Fermi, and Max Planck in Germany. So they invited Einstein and so  Einstein was thinking that these laws are controlled by some unknown controller. He did not know but so Fermi and this Heisenberg -..

SP: Bhagavat avigyatha Everything is there ….‘avigyatha friend.’ I’ve got a friend but I do not know he’s helping behind. Avigyatha.

BSDS: Actually, we encounter everyday the existence of the supreme brain. Just for example, in the chemical laboratory, we make different crystals like different salts and they have very definite and complete organized crystalline structures, different from each type of crystal and these are made just automatically. No one – just mix some things, and then the crystal grows with a definite geometrical shape, beautiful arrangements all the crystals.

SP: What is that crystals?

BSDS: So for example, salts of chromium, magnesium and nickel, these they combine with different anionic radicals, and then, just keep together for a few days.

SP: Crystals…

BSDS: Yes, these are called crystals. Like quartz – quartz is a crystal. In a diamond for example. These are called crystals in chemical terms.

Devotee: Also snowflakes…

BSDS: Yes, snow also…

Devotee: Snowflakes, water…

BSDS: Yes, the water is a definite shaped crystal, it cannot be changed. It always remains the definite crystal structure.

SP: They are called molecules?

BSDS: Yes, these are  called molecules. They call the molecular framework. These are arranged by – it’s a beautiful, beautiful arrangement. Like for example, sodium chloride has hexagonal shape, and geometrical, and beautiful arrangement in the crystal structure. They’re studying by a technique called x-ray crystallography.   So they make a small crystal and put under the x-ray beam and then X-ray beam is photographed, and from the photograph, we can see where the

sodium atom is staying in the space and chlorine is staying in the space and they have a beautiful picture in the film.  From there, you can understand the arrangement of the atoms.

SP: And we understand within the atom there is God.  aṇḍāntara-stha-paramāṇu-cayāntara-stham[ii]

Devotee: The snow…

BSDS: Yes.

Devotee: When the snow falls each flake of snow is perfectly symmetrical. Different patterns and each pattern is different from every other pattern.

BSDS: Yes, for example, this coal tar, these are different arrangements of  so called molecules of benzene. These molecules are hexagonal, the six sides are completely all the same, symmetrical. What happens is, one after another, there are different layers of this six faced hexagonal molecules and so they combine together and form this coal tar. The same thing with diamond also.  The structure is very similar with coal tar.  But only the – layers are different…

SP:  [indistinct verse]

BSDS: These are all arranged by most powerful brain.

SP: As soon as you accept brain, He must be a person.

BSDS: Yes.

SP: So God is a person. (pause) God cannot be impersonal (pause). By this scientific explanation, come to the conclusion, “God is a person”.  And we accept Him as supreme, paramah…Ishvarah paramah krsna, supreme brain. Acintya medha, inconceivable brain. These are.descriptions. Jiva Goswami has said that unless you accept God having inconceivable brain, He cannot be God. (pause) Small teeny seed, there is a big banyan tree, whole potency is there [indistinct words]. Similarly the whole universe is also put in a small atomic grain, that is coming out from Vishnu’s body and they are developing this.

Devotee: Sometimes in the ancient Egyptian graves, they find grains. When they plant those grains, they again grow even after they’ve been in the graves 2000 years, dormant.

SP: seed is [indistinct]  Bijam mam sarva-bhutanam. What is the time?

Devotee: Seven o’clock.

SP: If we present scientifically about the existence of God, that will be a great service. Think over discuss, here’s a scientist and try to write articles. (pause) He’s not protesting, he’s supporting us, so this is a great chance.

Devotee: Last night I was listening to that tape made with that Indian scientist in your room. Such a rascal. His argument was so easily defeated. It all came down to he doesn’t believe and we believe. He doesn’t believe in Krishna and we believe in Krishna. That’s the ultimate conclusion.

BSDS:  His arguments were self defeating.

SP: eh?

BSDS: Self defeating. He says something and say again opposes .

SP: Self-contradictory.

Devotee: He had to admit that that there was some kind of intelligence behind [indistinct word]’

SP: (laughs) Then why not God?

Devotee: He makes a contradiction.

SP: Intelligence means person. Brain means person.

Devotee: He has to admit God. We asked him If  he thought everything just happened by chance, or random, he said  ‘ no, there’s some kind of plan, some kind of intelligence,  order.’ Then later on we asked him if the universe was perfect- if the complete the universe was perfect., He said ‘no’ –  contradiction.

SP: He said universe is not perfect?

Devotee: Yeah. That’s what we scientists work for – to make it perfect.

SP:  Yes.

(sound of car starting)

SP: Our knowledge is perfect because it is coming from Krishna.  The Supreme perfect. (pause)

What is this boat, shipping?

Devotee: Fishing.

(SP chanting Hare Krishna)

SP: [indistinct sloka] The greatest scientist is the Krsna conscious person.

BSDS: In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says to Arjuna ,17^th Chapter, up to 17^th chapter,  surrender unto Krishna and then in the end, in the 18^th Chapter, Krsna says, I’ve given you the full knowledge, now it is up to you to whether to accept or not to accept, so that all shows how merciful is Krishna..

SP: He has  given us full freedom.  Full freedom we cannot enjoy, that is not possible , but as far as the question of our constitution is concerned, there is  freedom. Just like the parents give the child freedom, that is not full freedom  but he does not feel.

Devotee: (while driving) Ooh, man almost got hit. Not very attentive (laughter).

SP: (chants for a while) The devotee of the Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu , what to speak of the scientists, even great demigods like Brahma, Indra ,they are also considered [indistinct words].

(chants)

SP: I think there’s a little garden in front of our house?

Devotee: small but..

SP: They are taking care?

Devotee: They started but its being neglected for now.

SP: They should take care.

(End)

sviṣṭasya sūktasya ca buddhi-dattayoḥ

avicyuto ‘rthaḥ kavibhir nirūpito

yad-uttamaśloka-guṇānuvarṇanam.

Learned circles have positively concluded that the infallible purpose of the advancement of knowledge, namely austerities, study of the Vedas, sacrifice, chanting of hymns and charity, culminates in the transcendental descriptions of the Lord, who is defined in choice poetry (SB 1.5.22)

[ii] eko ‘py asau racayituḿ jagad-aṇḍa-koṭiḿ

yac-chaktir asti jagad-aṇḍa-cayā yad-antaḥ

aṇḍāntara-stha-paramāṇu-cayāntara-stham-

govindam ādi-puruṣaḿ tam ahaḿ bhajāmi

He is an undifferentiated entity as there is no distinction between potency and the possessor thereof. In His work of creation of millions of worlds, His potency remains inseparable. All the universes exist in Him and He is present in His fullness in every one of the atoms that are scattered throughout the universe, at one and the same time. Such is the primeval Lord whom I adore (Brahma Samhita 5.35)

Transcriber: Bhaktin Preetha

Editor: Rupachandra Das

Date: 16^th August 2007

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Devotee: Like night is only night in relationship to day , big is only big in relationship to small.

SP: So they accept there is small and there is big?

Devotee: Relativity.

SP: Yes. Everything is relative.

BSDS:  Yes. It’s related by time and space. To call five seconds or ten seconds, it’s related, because nothing is absolute.

SP: Why they do not understand relativity of brain?

BSDS: Yes, they are also to understand that, but they haven’t proposed yet.

SP: Eh?

BSDS: They haven’t proposed, so far.

Devotee: The formula is, what is it? “Energy equals…”

BSDS:  e= mc squared?

Devotee: Time times?

BSDS: Mass times the square of velocity of light.

Devotee: the what?

BSDS: Of the velocity of light.

SP: In psychology, there is study –  brain substance. Brain substance of all men are not equal. Is it known to the scientist? Brain substance.

BSDS:  Yeah. I think it’s known because when Einstein died, they tried to preserve the brain of Einstein, thinking that his brain was different from others.

SP: If it was not different, then how you can distinguish.

BSDS: The brain substance is different, that’s you have the-  intelligence different.

SP:  According to brain substance, there is difference of  intelligence.

Devotee:  They attribute to a lot more factors too like environment, development -

SP: Anyway. So, relative brain, This is like night (inaudible) duration of life of Brahma is different from the duration of life of the ant So, relatively there are so many different species of life. Relatively. Do the scientists agree or not?

Devotee: Yes.

SP: Eh? Then why there shouldn’t be a perfect brain, which is God.

Devotee: The atheists they say that…

SP: It is not a question of atheist, it is question of science.

Devotee: They say the scientific conclusion is that relativity extends for infinity.

SP: Yes, that infinity, the infinite brain is God.

Devotee:  They say there is no need for a one infinite.

SP: No, there is need because you are operator in the laboratory. Hydrogen, oxygen, you can make one glass of water. So why not the biggest brain make the pacific ocean.  How can we deny it? If we accept the law of relativity, then just like a ant. It can bore holes , small in the drain. You can make a tunnel. Similarly one can make biggest tunnel.

Devotee: They say that you are just material energy and water is material energy.-

SP: Everyone is material energy.  It is working relatively  in accordance to relative brain and body. So ultimately, infinite brain is (inaudible).

BSDS: That infinite brain is absolute.

SP: Yes. He is not dependent on anyone.

Devotee: They say, they say that, small relativity, it’s like, we’re relative to our capacity, so everything is relative.

SP: Yes.

Devotee: God also has to be relative.

SP: Yes. God is relative, you are small, He is big. That’s all

BSDS: Yes.

SP: We are teeny and He’s infinite.

Devotee: So on that basis also we can say that you are God over the ant.

SP: Yes. That we have explained every time that we are not supreme but in comparison to the ant I am God. Similarly the ant is also God in comparison to the microbe.

Devotee: They say that relativity extends there is no supreme supreme.

SP: eh?

Devotee:  Just relative supreme.

SP: Relative supreme indeed. Just like you are God to the ant, similarly He is supreme God to everyone.

Devotee: That they won’t agree.

SP: Why they shall not agree? Eh, why they shall not agree.

BSDS: Because they do not have complete information.

SP:  There is no question of information, it is a question of knowledge and philosophy. As I see it, relative, this is small, this is big, this is bigger than this, this is bigger than this, bigger than this, bigger than this. Then, you find that no more bigger. Then that is God.

Devotee: They say that relative scale, that small and bigger that goes on forever. It never stops.

SP: Yes, that’s alright, that’s alright. But you have to accept somebody bigger that you.

BSDS: So, in the –in the material time scale, there is no absolute.

SP: That is explained in the Vedas, nitya nityanam. God means that means that He is also eternal, we are also eternal, everything is eternal. As they say, everything is existing, but the operation is different. Operation is relative. God means His operational activity is much more higher, important than yours. [Pause] You have a small body like this. If you are asked to pick up something from the midst of the ocean, you cannot do that. But if one can assume a very big body, in the midst of the ocean, the water is like this, up to this. How can you deny it?

Devotee: Well they don’t deny that. They simply deny the existence of an absolute supreme.

SP: There is no question of absolute. You have to accept bigger than you. [Pause] Just like this small bird, it is walking in the water with beach. The water may be up to this. Somebody may come (inaudile).

BSDS: Making a lot of noise.

Devotee: Well they wouldn’t deny that.

SP:  If you accept that, then it is alright, that is God.  He is greater than you, that’s all. Same example.  Hydrogen, oxygen. Hydrogen, oxygen is there. You make. You can make a glass of water in the laboratory. The hydrogen, oxygen is there, but you cannot mix, big quantity of hydrogen, oxygen and make a sea. But one who can do that is bigger than us.

Devotee: Because as relativity extends on, that discounts the importance of any one person.

SP: Yes, that’s important. You cannot make the sea. You can make a glass of water. Therefore one who has made the sea is much more important than yourself.  How can you deny it.

Devotee: They say that one’s made water is more important than one who has made the sea.

SP: Eh? That’s alright. As long as you accept that there is somebody bigger than you who can make the sea. That means somebody bigger than you, that’s alright. But you accept that you are small, he is big. [Pause] That we have explained in the Brahma Samhita, that the Maha Vishnu, from his breathing, millions of universes are coming. And again  - yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-anda-nathah visnur mahan sa iha yasya kala-viseso. This Mahavishnu is only a portion –  plenary expansion of Krishna. Maha Vishnu is also nothing. That we accept, relatively, more, more, more, more.

Devotee: Their point of argument is that they don’t accept that there is a transcendental energy that exists.

SP: Never mind that. But you have to accept that you are not even an insignificant ant before Him. That you accept. Then our proposition is finished.

Devotee: But they…

SP: You are nothing but an insignificant ant in comparison to His power.

Devotee: But they think, it’s like, the ant may have insignificant power, but the ant is not increasing its power, but human beings are increasing their power.

SP: Could be, but for the time being, you  are nothing but an insignificant creature.Just like anyone is trying to become a very big businessman. Not that before becoming a Rockefeller, he can claim that I am Rockefeller. That is nonsense. You become Rockefeller, then you say.

Devotee: Just the possibility of becoming one intoxicates them.

SP: The possibility is not fact. Everyone has got the possibility of becoming a Rockefeller. But that does not mean everyone is Rockefeller. That is another (?foolishness).

Devotee: But the possibility props them up, intoxicates them.

SP: Eh?

Devotee: The possibility intoxicates them.

SP: Then you can think that all the banks belong to me. That is another intoxication. If you want to be happy, then all the banks of Los Angeles, they belong to me.  I am the proprietor. The intoxication gives you some relief, then enjoy that, but actually you’re a madman, if you think like that.

Devotee: Some human beings have done that.

SP: Uh?

Devotee: Some human beings have done that.

SP: But you are not, first of all you accept. Some may have done, some may be done but you are not. First of all you accept that. (Inaudible).

BSDS: The-the problem of relativity is alright. So for example, I can make five bowls and one bowl would be smaller than others. So like that, I can make five different kinds of bowls, but these are related to the others but I am making these bowls you know. So there has to be a person who can make these related things.

SP: Yes.

BSDS: Otherwise there is no question of relativity, if there’s someone who is operating these relative things.

Devotee: They say that relative energy creates relative manifestations. The energy which is making the bowls is still relative.

BSDS: Yes, but there has to be a person who is engaged in making these related things, otherwise, there will be no relativity.

Devotee: That’s still relative energy.

SP: Whatever it may be. Somebody is operating this relative law. [Pause] We explain many times that everyone has got  [inaudible] relative.

BSDS: Yes.

Devotee: In modern-modern physics, [inaudible] personality, intelligence, everything is simply different combinations of material energy.

SP: That’s alright. That is relative.

Devotee: There is no necessary of question of a person being [inaudible] everything is simply atoms.

SP: Because you are person, therefore everything must be person. You are studying as a person. You are not a dead body.

Devotee: That person , that personality is also just atoms in different orbits.

SP:  That’s alright, we agree-we agree. Therefore we say see God, karuna.

BSDS: We are like atomic particles.

SP: We accept that. Everything person.

Devotee: Everything is atom and atoms are not persons.

SP: Why not? We say that within the atom, there is God.

Devotee: That they can’t see.

SP: Eh?

Devotee: That they can’t see.

SP: They cannot see so many things, rascals. What to speak of God (laughter). We cannot see what is there within the ocean. That does not mean, there is no living entity.   Your seeing power is defective. [Pause]  A small microbes [inaudible]  Within that micro-body, it is all physiological machine, but we cannot see.

Devotee: [inaudible]

SP: eh?

Devotee:  If a crazy man comes up and says…

SP: Practical means you have to accept, that you are a small insignificant and that is very very big. That is practical. How can you deny it? As you can create a glass of water by mixing hydrogen and oxygen, so another person who can create the sea by mixing hydrogen, oxygen, he must be greater than you, you have to accept.

Devotee:  [inaudible] its all the same energy anyway.

SP: That’s alright but you cannot operate it. Energy is there, material is there. [Pause] If you accept the law of relativity you have to accept God. What you think?

BSDS: There’s no question about it. [Pause] In other words, God is infinite and we are finite particles of small living ….

SP: Yes.

BSDS: ..fragments.

SP: Anor aniyan mahato mahiyan. Smaller than the smallest, bigger than the biggest.  [Pause] (inaudible verse). You are creating one glass of water by mixing hydrogen, oxygen. God is creating millions of billions of pacific ocean simultaneously. Just like seasonal changes, as soon as  the season changes, millions of trees immediately grows leaves. Immediately. When there is a change of season immediately millions of leaves (inaudible). This is God’s energy. The energy is working in the same way. You can also create one leaf. If you take the procedure, you can make artificially one leaf but that is also not perfect. But God has created millions of trees, and millions and trillions of leaves within a second. That you can see.

Devotee: They won’t credit that to a person.

SP: eh?

Devotee:  They won’t give any credit.

SP: But that is their foolishness. (laughter)  Therefore they are rascal. You kick him with shoe. (Inaudible) No, I’m alright. (laughter)

Devotee: They say, just like you build a big fire may, that produces 100 degrees, a small fire produces five degrees, its still fire.

SP: That’s alright. You are also living entity, he is also living entity, there is no change.  You also fire, he is also fire. But you are spark, he is big fire. That is difference.  A spark is also fire. Who denies it?

Devotee: They say it is all one.

SP: All one in quality, not in quantity. That is our philosophy.

Devotee: They say the whole material energy as being….

SP: That’s alright. Difference of quantity is there, that is relativity..And I’m trying to – You can make a glass of water. That quantity and if I can make a pacific ocean,  that quantity is not one, but the water is one, that’s all. And the process of manufacturing is also one. But the quantity is different.

Devotee: Because if the material energy is the same, then there is no need for a God.

SP:  No, there is need of God. You cannot make the Pacific Ocean. That God is needed.

BSDS: We simply say that God’s power is inconceivable.

SP: Yes. Inconceivable to you, but not inconceivable to Him

BSDS: Yes

SP: He knows His business.

BSDS: Because our brain is so teeny, compared with His, so we cannot conceive his power.

SP: Yes, Inconceivable.

[Pause]

SP:  Just like the contents of the sun, there is no [inaudible], so that at night, there is no need of .

BSDS: Electricity?

SP: Electricity light.

Devotee:  Assuming who has created the sun has created us

SP: That is one after another. If by creation of something, by that energy, another thing is created, another thing is created. That is the law of creation.

Devotee: They won’t see anyone behind that.

SP: What power of seeing. That is their foolishness. What they can see. How far they can see?  So called seeing disease is childish. What you can see?

Devotee: Dr. Frog’s philosophy.

SP: Yes, Dr. Frog’s .

BSDS: They say that, so called, discoveries by scientists are nothing but imitation just as

(New tape)

BSDS: Yes at the same time, for example discoveries like aeroplane. They discovered because they imitated the flying of birds. They saw how the birds are flying so they imitated two wings, like shape of a bird. This is not their creation. This is just imitation from nature. Similarly, all discoveries are just imitations.

SP: Still they cannot imitate. Just like a small bird  also flying. So what machinery is there? If they can invent that machinery, (inaudible) question is over. But he cannot see that. The bird is also flying, the aeroplane is also flying but you are flying the aeroplane on the strength of petroleum but in the bird there is no petroleum. The bird is creating its own energy from within. Machine is so made that it is flying without petroleum. Why don’t you do that?

BSDS: Because the living force. In a bird there is living force.

Devotee: They think they can.

SP: They have not done it. Again that same thing..

Devotee: In the future.

SP: In future. That is nonsense. (Laughter). When you do it, then you say.

BSDS: Say for example, computer. Computer is just like human brain. I mean its different to a degree but it works like a human brain. But of course there is a operator in the –

SP: The human brain is there. It is pushing the body. Without human brain you cannot work. The human brain is there. It is not human brain. The machine itself is not human brain. The human brain outside the machine works.

Devotee:  They are saying they will make a human brain.

SP: That’s alright, see again the future (laughter). This foolishness is there. But we don’t accept such foolishness – the future. Everyone can say in future I shall become like this.

BSDS: That is why in one branch of science, so called trying to solve in future, say for example, they already trying to tell what is going to happen in two thousand years. So they say in two thousand years for example what type of dinner is going to have today so –

SP: But he cannot say what is going to happen to him in two thousand years.

BSDS: He cannot say even I mean, tomorrow what is going to happen

Devotee: He will be existing as much as he is existing now because the energy will all be conserved.

SP: The energy is always existing. You don’t require to think of what will happen. The energy is existing. Why you bother yourself? Let the energy do its own (inaudible). Actually it is being done. Just like Mr. Johnson, he was president and he was always busy, what will happen, what will happen. Now the election is over and still the government is going on without him. The government is going on without him. But when he was in the government he was thinking, oh what will happen.

Devotee: I’d say the government is going on because he was conscientious like that when he was the president.

SP: Yes but without him, the government can go on. Why does he not think like that?

Devotee: (inaudible) we have to think like that. Just like if I thought I don’t have to do anything because it will go on anyway

SP:  No, if you accept that energies are already there then why should you bother. The energy is (inaudible).

Devotee: But I am also that energy. If I am acting –

SP: But when you are not acting the energy is going on. So your action or no action, it doesn’t matter.

Devotee: (Inaudible) we should say it doesn’t matter whether I chant Hare Krishna or not because the energy is the same.

SP: Yes, that right. But you do not belong to that. We belong to what you call discriminating human being. You want to create something for advancement, we are living entity, we want advancement. And advancement means I have to do that. If I want to go, advance, then I have to walk. Your walking will not do, my walking is required if I want to advance.

BSDS: So planning for something is necessary. Without planning thinking that the energy is everywhere we cannot just -

SP: Planning is necessary. That planning should be within the big planning. You cannot plan anything whimsically.

BSDS: Mmhmm.

(Pause).

SP: So prove existence of God by this law of relativity.

(Pause).

BSDS: Actually everything is working under the laws of nature. Nothing remains stopped. Everything works.

SP: (inaudible verse). That is the instruction in the Bhagavad Gita. When Arjuna was declining to fight , Krishna ultimately says don’t think that all these men who are gathered here will go on. It is already planned they should die. You fight or not fight, they will die. That plan is already there. (inaudible verse) We have to endeavour for Krishna consciousness and nothing else. Everything is there. That is the point. Because you are living entity, you’ve got little independence. By misuse of independence you become out of Krishna’s association. So we have to try for that to again go back to the association. Nothing else. Other things will go on. You don’t require to become a scientist or physicist or this or that. You don’t require. Simply required to chant Hare Krishna, that’s all. That is your only requirement. (inaudible) scientist . We are trying to please Krishna that’s all. But things are going on. (pause) Sarva dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja , you simply surrender , that is your duty. No other duty. (verse).

(End)

Transcriber: Bhaktin Preetha

Editor: Rupachandra Das

Date: 10/05/2008